On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 14:01:47 -0400, Dan Gaters
<dan.gaters@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>Pablo:
>
>> In the long run, what damage can Isiah do in his new role?
>
>We'll have to see, won't we?
>
>> This was a face-saving gesture by Walsh
>
>Why on earth would Isiah's face have to be saved? What exactly has he
done
>to deserve face saving? And what kind of a signal does that send to the
>team, the league and the fans? Mr. GimmeMyRetirementCheck is essentially
>saying, you can be the worst coach/GM in history, produce the worst team
>record and rape the franchise and nothing will happen to you; indeed,
your
>face will be saved. That's no way to (re)build a culture of hardwork and
>winning.
>
First off dan haven't you realized that no one cares about FANATICS???
Second if you feel that way about Walsh, then how do you feel about
the man really in charge? His name is Dolan by the way... I mean it
appears everyone of im****tance but you dan likes Isiah enough to save
his face... LOL!!!!
>> Zeke's still got $18 million of Daddy Dolan's money coming his way.
>
>That's Dolan's problem. AND HE DIDN'T MANDATE WALSH TO RETAIN HIM,
according
>to Walsh himself. See, it already started, people here are talking as if
>this isn't Walsh's doing. It was his sole decision to retain Isiah.
>
So, I guess us FANATICS must get over it then? Or what???
>> Who among the available coaches would you prefer?
>
>Anyone else who actually coached a single game of NBA basketball for
>starters, not to say anything about someone who actually rebuilt a team.
>
>> Again, the reduced role for Thomas neutralizes his influence.
>
>Why the hell should he have ANY influence whatsoever? Why does anybody
owe
>him ANYTHING?
>
Now finally you are asking the right questions. I have said in the
past Dan and I will keep repeating until one of FANATICS gets it... We
simply dont know what goes on over there really? Many have argued for
years that Isiah should not be here, but he is... Maybe we will never
know what is really going on over there but at least you can surmise
from what happens that all our assumptions about what we FANATICS
think should happen simply isnt happening our way. Now that being
said maybe some investigative re****ting can tell us why???
>> I'm beginning to think that nothing short of a public pillary for Isiah
Lord
>> Thomas III would satisfy you, Dan.
>
>You got that right. He got millions to set back this franchise a decade.
Why
>shouldn't he be held responsible for it publicly?
>
Simple... Because the person who paid him that much money and gave him
control is not mad at him. At least not as mad as you are. Can we at
least agree with that?
>> I'm happy with Thomas stripped of title and authority.
>
>Good for you. What exactly is the logic of keeping around someone who's
been
>"stripped of title and authority"? That's like finding cancer in an
>operation but not taking it all out because cancer's face has to be
saved.
>It's insane.
>
Unless you are teh only one that thinks it is cancer and of course you
are not a doctor. Simply put I feel your pain dan but it is painfully
obvious that the people who have power and control over this situation
do not agree with you. If they did Isiah would get everything that you
think he should get. Sometimes whether the majority agree with you or
not doesnt matter. The ones in power always matter. Dolan has simply
said... " Who Dan Gaters... Let him eat cake!!"
>> Translation: I don't know if I can trade Curry, and I won't trade
>> Marbury's expiring contract, so we may as well make the best of the
>> situation.
>
>I was pointing out the breathtaking naiveté of Curry and Starbury
"assuring
>him they have every intention to arrive next season in peak condition."
Is
>this a joke? Can Mr. GimmeMyRetirementCheck be so oblivious to the
history
>of these two clowns? I mean he could legitimately say something about the
>contracts but to think, after all these years, Curry will come back "in
peak
>condition" is a sad joke. Just how naïve does Mr. GimmeMyRetirementCheck
>think we are about the "potential" of Curry and Starbury? Isn't there
enough
>evidence already for all but the blindest?
>
I go back to the many previous statements I made... Dan you assume
that Walsh Dolan or anyone there really thinks about your naivety??? I
think they simply could care less and have said that too many times.
It is going to play out how it is going to play out. I am glad Isiah
is not in power but realize even as a hot dog vendor he is making too
much money to just let go. Dan if you are happy being this miserable
about people who could care less about how you feel then so be it.
Don't Worry Be Happy!!!!
>> If Marbury can keep his mouth shut and play ball...
>
>See, how can you say that? When did that EVER happen? You think Starbury
>will magically transform his personality next year?
>
>Enough with fantasizing about "potentials" that'll never happen! This is
>precisely the culture, the imbecility Isiah Lord Thomas III brought to
the
>franchise from his Starbury trade through Tim Thomas to Curry...that
needs
>to be eradicated.
>
>Some adult had to turn the page, Mr. GimmeMyRetirementCheck didn't have
the
>cajones.
>
>DG
>
I say tongue in cheek... Hey Dan I think Dolan really cares and will
get this ****p on the right coarse. Oh and I take offense to the
GimmeMyRetirementCheck... Why you ask because old guys like me would
love to be able to get one like Walsh's check..... Heres looking
forward to reirement soon real soon.....
In closing "Let's Go Knicks!!!!!!!!"


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