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by "marika" <marika5000@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 16, 2008 at 10:14 PM

I am going to hell for posting this blasphemous thing

http://www.ecoworld.com/home/articles2.cfm?tid=453
The Debate Resumes

CLIMATE CONFERENCE FOR GLOBAL WARMING SKEPTICS CHALLENGES CLAIMS OF 
CONSENSUS, ALLEGES SUPRESSION OF FINDINGS SKEPTICAL OF ALARMIST
PREDICTIONS

by Marc Morano


    "

Editor's Note: We have been publi****ng more material than ever on the 
subject of climate change, for a very simple reason: The debate is not
over 
as to the cause, the eventual severity, nor the remedies for climate
change. 
The debate never was over, and for the mainstream press to have ever
acceded 
to the notion that debate was over, or to condone marginalizing anyone who

continued to debate, is one of the most eggregious examples of media bias
in 
history.

One should think that given what is at stake - the reorganization of our 
entire political and economic systems - debate would be welcomed. One
would 
think those who are calling for debate and discussion would be heralded as

voices of moderation and reason, instead of branded as ideological
fanatics 
and cor****ate ****lls. The fact that debate is supposedly "over" regarding 
something for which the remedy is so fundamentally and abruptly 
transformative should concern anyone who claims to care about human
rights, 
individual freedoms, free enterprise, and an open society. The idea that 
anyone who questions global warming alarmism is freely demonized should 
concern any student of history. The solution - government control over 
virtually anything that emits a gas - including CO2, which plants and
trees 
require to for their very survival - and huge new taxes (perhaps disguised

in the form of Wall Street friendly "cap and trade" mechanisms, but the 
consumer still pays the freight), should concern anyone who cares about 
representative government and values the concept of private property.

Perhaps it is common sense that is endangered here. If the earth is indeed

warming because of anthropogenic CO2, what can be done? Shall we sequester

20-30 gigatons of CO2 every year, when for the amount of money that would 
cost, we could clean up every river, stop overfi****ng the oceans,
eliminate 
every criteria air pollutant, and fight malaria to a standstill? Even 
accepting conclusions of climate models - problematic concoctions that 
constitute the "scientific" imperative behind AGW alarmism and consequent 
policy - isn't it true that we would have to sequester literally 80% of
the 
CO2 currently attributed to human activity? Isn't that impossible? Why not

reforest the planet? Why not restore the mangrove forests that used to
stop 
tidal surges throughout the coastal tropics, and why not stop blowing up 
coral reefs to flush the cash crop of fish, so they could regenerate and 
again stop seasonal storms from inundating tropical islands? There is a 
legitimate environmental agenda completely apart from global warming alarm
- 
and there are many skeptics who nonetheless care deeply about the 
environment.

Common sense would suggest we question the agenda of the global warming 
alarmists who rely on fear and questionable science, not that of the 
skeptics. If there is a "denial industry," who would benefit? A handful of

underfunded think tanks? If there is a hidden agenda, it is more likely 
coming from the "alarm industry." Government agencies get more tax
revenue, 
the United Nations gets a revenue stream, insurance companies collect
higher 
premiums, cor****ations get more subsidies, small businesses get destroyed 
because they can't afford to comply with the new regulations, and families

everywhere pay punitive prices for energy, water and land. Is this the 
future we want? Maybe if all of this AGW alarmism were true!

The 2008 International Conference on Climate Change described in this 
feature, held earlier this month in New York City, featured some of the
most 
credible (and credentialed) people to ever convene at a climate related 
event. Their presentations on climate science were diverse, as befits a 
scientific conference, and most of the participants were "skeptics," 
something that also befits a scientific conference. But despite the
re****t's 
description of this event as being well covered by the media, in reality
it 
was not. For the most part, the media ignored this event. Because the 
comparison that is valid is not whether or not a few of the mainstream
media 
outlets re****ted on this event. The valid comparison is whether or not
this 
event got the level of attention that the most recent IPCC press release 
garnered, and by that measure coverage was nonexistant. And in too many 
cases, coverage was slanted to present a smarmy, derisive characterization

of the event as a final gasp of the "flat earthers."

Many conscientious people, relatively free of biases, simply feel climate 
science is beyond them; they need to recognize this inhibition hasn't 
stopped the people re****ting the news or those in the political & 
entertainment community whose pronouncements they have relied upon. And
for 
those who believe in AGW alarmism because it fits preexisting biases, or 
furthers a political or economic agenda, know this: Science - stripping
away 
the corruption and op****tunism that has infected much of the scientific 
community when it comes to the question of alleged global warming - has no

ideology, no ulterior purpose; it is utterly dispassionate. Science relies

on skepticism, and ultimately rests on truth. - Ed "Redwood" Ring The
March 
2-4 groundbreaking conference, which featured about 100 speakers with over

500 people attending, presented the re****t of a team of international 
scientists who formed a group to counter the UN IPCC. [Note: The author of

this re****t attended and participated in the conference.]

The event, which garnered significant international and U.S. media 
attention, featured many current and former UN IPCC scientists from around

the world. The conference occurred just months after the release of a 
blockbuster U.S. Senate Minority Re****t featuring over 400 prominent 
scientists who recently disputed man-made global warming claims. (LINK)
The 
more than 400 scientists featured in the re****t thoroughly debunk the 
assertions that "all scientists agree" about man-made global warming. But
as 
New York Times environmental re****ter Andrew Revkin noted on March 6, 
science is ultimately not a numbers game. "As we all know, climate science

is not a numbers game (there are heaps of signed statements by folks with 
advanced degrees on all sides of this issue)," Revkin wrote. )
Furthermore, 
a Canadian survey of scientists released on March 6, 2008 offered even
more 
evidence that the alleged "consensus" is non-existent. A canvass of more 
than 51,000 scientists with the Association of Professional Engineers, 
Geologists and Geophysicists of Alberta (APEGGA) found 68% of them
disagree 
with the statement that "the debate on the scientific causes of recent 
climate change is settled.'" According to the survey, only 26% of
scientists 
attributed global warming to "human activity like burning fossil fuels." 
APEGGA"s executive director Neil Windsor said, "We're not surprised at
all. 
There is no clear consensus of scientists that we know of."



During the conference, scientists revealed the lack of tolerance science 
journals and institutions have exhibited for skeptical climate views. "We 
[fellow skeptical scientists] talked mostly of work and upcoming papers
and 
went through the standard ritual of griping about journal editors and the 
ridiculous hoops we sometimes have to jump through to get papers
published. 
But some of the guys had absolute horror stories of what happened to them 
when they tried getting papers published that explored non-"consensus" 
views. Really outrageous and unethical behavior on the parts of some 
editors. I was shocked," wrote conference participant Dr. William M.
Briggs, 
a climate statistician who serves on the American Meteorological Society's

Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly

Weather Review, on his blog on March 4.
 




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